There is no “in fighting” between former members of Heaven’s Gate

The following is a comment I left on one of Sawyer’s videos in response to one of his followers asking if “there was this much in fighting in the class”.

Austin used to talk about “in fighting” despite the hundreds of times that I told him that the class is gone and therefore there is no in fighting. Do not judge the class by the idiotic behavior of former members. Any conflicts between former members are due to individuals trying to equate their “experience” (their egos) with the Next Level information that the class carefully and deliberately left behind with very specific instructions that it be disseminated. Immediately after the class left Rio tried to elevate himself above other former class members by declaring himself the “sole surviving member” which is a complete fabrication. Sawyer has also tried to elevate himself above other former members by constantly touting his “19 years of fully dedicated service” and accusing others of “doing next to nothing to combat misinformation” because apparently that is what he is doing so now it’s a petty human competition concerning who is doing the most to combat misinformation about the class. If Do stated that He was “quite capable of giving you misinformation” then how much more true is that of those who flunked out of His classroom? The most true and accurate information about the class is the information that they left behind. Listening to former members will inevitably give one distorted and diluted perspectives. These points cannot be argued no matter how much Sawyer tries to obfuscate them with his going on and on and on and on…………..

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RKK vs the supposed “surviving members” of Heaven’s Gate

It should be quite obvious by now that any individuals on this planet who claim to be “surviving members” or “active students” of Ti and Do’s classroom have no interest in following in Do and the class’ footsteps. This is despite the fact that there was an invitation to follow them in the letters that the class sent in the FedEx packages; “Also we want to make it clear that we’re certainly not asking you to do these tasks if, after receiving this information, circumstances make it too difficult or other options seem more appropriate to you. We want you to feel free to exercise any available options with whatever timing feels right for your own next step. NO DOORS ARE CLOSED TO YOU (emphasis mine)”.

The above was from the letter to Mark and Sarah King of TELAH. The letter to RKK contained the same invitation with a notable exception, it didn’t contain the line, “no doors are closed to you” as if the class knew that RKK knew that no doors were closed to him but the Kings needed that reminder. If Rio had ever been transparent and shown his letter to the world it would have been interesting to see if that line had been added as well. Or in the letter that JHN received.

Speaking of JHN Sawyer has claimed that in a somewhat recent phone conversation JHN agreed with him that the invitation to leave this world was “targeted” to former class members. Interestingly Rio said the exact same thing on Art Bell in August of 1997 with no proof at all from anything that the class had said. I’ve provided the proof from Do Himself (at the ten minute mark in Do’s Final Exit) that the invitation was “targeted” to those who may have never even heard of Do before the Exit video was made. Apparently these self-appointed “surviving members” and “active students” can’t be bothered to study what Do actually said and would rather spew their ignorant speculations as if they were somehow indicative of what Do taught.

Perhaps these individuals are afraid that the public will accuse them of “encouraging suicide” so they decided to ignore what Do said for their own personal reasons. Perhaps their own fears of leaving have caused them to discourage others from listening to what Do actually had to say about it. Whatever it is that is telling them these things it obviously came from themselves and NOT from Ti, Do and the Next Level.

Just like it wasn’t Ti and Do who inspired Rio to claim that RKK was doing things in “a non-approved manner, he wasn’t given a task by Do”. Nor did the Next Level work through Rio when he lied to the world and claimed that, “it was my task to put it on the Internet” even though only RKK was given the discs with the Exit Statements and Final Press Release with instructions to upload them to hg.com. If it was Rio’s task to “put it on the Internet” then why didn’t he show the world the letter that the class sent him where he was supposedly asked to do so? Why hasn’t TELAH provided one shred of documentation from the class to back up any of their claims?

Rio also referred to RKK making copies of the HG Book and distributing them as “bootlegging it” despite the fact that the Book was protected by a Common Law Copyright that allows anyone to “bootleg it”. He also tried to claim that RKK’s rebelliousness against what he and the Kings were standing for was a “problem that he had in class” as if whatever issues RKK had with his vehicle (that he was very up-front about) in the class somehow translated to the conflicts with other former members of the group. This is one of the innumerable examples where these former members seem to assume that everything that they do is for Ti, Do and the Next Level and anyone who opposes them is therefore opposing Ti, Do and the Next Level. I feel that Sawyer has taken a somewhat similar position.

Perhaps these arrogant and deceitful former members are the ones who are rebelling against what Ti and Do actually taught because they don’t want to confront the fact that Do left with an open invitation to follow Him. They’d rather pretend that they were “left behind” and act as if they are the spokesperson’s for Heaven’s Gate because the class supposedly trusted them with all of their “tasks” for a “reason”. None of these cowards retrieved the audio tapes from the storage lockers and yet they all know of their existence and continue to conspire to withhold them from the world. They have appointed themselves the Heaven’s Gate keepers and they have arrogantly decided that the world is not worthy of hearing what is on those tapes (JHN once referred to it as “throwing pearls before swine”) which assumedly means that only they are the worthy ones. And yet on one of the tapes I’ve heard Do specifically addressing individuals who would be listening to the tapes AFTER they’ve gone.

Why hide the tapes? RKK felt that it may have had something to with the fact that there are tapes (probably destroyed now) that dealt with Mark getting kicked out of the class (something that he refuses to achnowledge to this day) and another tape that dealt with “MRC/SRF’s bitterness”. Perhaps it is for PERSONAL reasons that they are suppressing the tapes under the guise of all that they are doing being for Ti, Do and the Next Level. This has been the attitude of these individuals since 1997, “the class put us in charge (not true) and if you dare to defy us then you are defying the class”.

JHN once got very mad at RKK for putting up a note on heavensgate.com that called Mark and Sarah King “thieves” for holding onto the audio tapes. Mark did beg RKK for the tapes and Mark did repeatedly assure RKK that he would make them available and he still hasn’t done so. I think that someone who uses lies and manipulation to obtain something for their own purposes is a thief and I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Ti and Do would not approve of how Mark manipulated RKK into giving him the tapes. It’s almost as if Mark thinks the ends justifies the means but what his ends are (beyond taking credit for all things Heaven’s Gate) I still have no idea.

The last time I spoke to JHN he called me to tell me that I was “judging” Mark. I don’t believe that pointing out things that someone has actually done (like repeatedly lying) is judging them, they judge themselves with their own behavior. I didn’t say Mark was going to hell but I have said that I wouldn’t want to be in his shoes when he tries to explain to the Next Level how all of his lies were somehow done in Their name. JHN said that he wanted us all to “work together” but as far as I can tell their version of that is to do whatever Mark says even when it goes directly against the class “desire” that their information be “disseminated” . JHN was given the masters to the Beyond Human series and yet Mark copyrighted the entire series with no instruction from the class to do so. To me it always seemed like JHN would rather get along with Mark than stand up for what the class wanted done with their information. Pleasing former members of the class is not the same thing as pleasing Ti and Do.

It’s amazing how quickly and easily former members of the class screwed up all the careful planning that the class did before they left. First, Rio doesn’t bother to contact anyone on the list of former class members who had received the packages and instead goes to the Rancho Santa Fe house with his employer. According to RKK’s unpublished manuscript Rio “was not returning any of my phone calls to him since March 25th”. The news didn’t break until March 26th so Rio had to know before he went to the mansion and before he called 911 that RKK had tried to contact him and yet he ignored him and continued to ignore him for several days. It was only when RKK was in Nashville visiting the ISP for hg.com that he got to talk to Rio as Rio happened to call the office at that time. RKK arranged to meet with Rio in L.A.

Here’s how RKK described that meeting,

“He seemed to be asking most of the questions and I felt like I was being interrogated. I felt very uncomfortable and it was as if I was being grilled by some lawyer. ……I…asked why he had not been in contact with anyone else over the last two weeks since the event happened. He said, “RKKODY, don’t pick on me, you know how things are. I’m not picking on you so please don’t pick on me”.

That’s a pretty strange and defensive response to being asked a simple question. Apparently RIO had no problem interrogating RKK but as soon as RKK asked RIO why he was not returning his calls RIO acted like the victim. RKK goes on,

“I didn’t know what to think of that. I became even more suspicious and was not sure if he was being up front with me of if I had given into influences of suspicion and distrust. I didn’t like being so suspect of everyone. I was starting to feel like there was a division being drawn between ex-classmates. Some were aligning themselves with MRC and SRF and the San Diego lawyer who seemed to have his own agenda. I really suspected that Rio’s lawyer simply put the clamps on his revealing anything until the ABC deal was signed and that is why he was not returning my phone calls”.

Mark King wanted a deal with a “big publisher” for the book and he therefore wanted RKK to stop distributing the book. So, initially Mark wanted nothing to do with ANY of the tasks that were offered to them and begged RKK to remove the TELAH address at his Postnet business in Phoenix from heavensgate.com. But then Mark has an amazing change of heart about it all after talking to an entertainment lawyer and mentioning to RKK that there’s “tens of millions at stake”. Then the Kings tune changed to one of RKK “interfering” with their task. I and others received an e-mail from Mark in the summer of 1997 in which he was trying to convince us that RKK was “under an influence”. On the Art Bell show Rio tried to claim that the problems RKK was having with the Kings and himself were the same “problems that he had in the class”. RKK was the first to admit that he had a rebellious vehicle, he stated several times it was why he left the class five times.

I think it’s disgusting that these former class members tried to use RKK’s difficulties with his vehicle in the class to bolster their case that they were right and he was wrong, they were doing the class’ will while RKK was rebelling against their perfect way of doing things. Apparently these individuals feel that they can do no wrong and RKK was always in the wrong. And admitting that he couldn’t be wrong was why Mark was kicked out of the class. But in his arrogant mind it was always RKKODY who was wrong and once I joined up with RKK then we were both wrong and TELAH and the two other supposed “surviving members” were always right.

It’s interesting that Rio-who signed that $2.5 million deal with ABC-accused RKK of “exploiting the class’ materials for profit” because RKK had some mouse pads, coffee cups and t-shirts for sale. It’s true that there were no specific instructions to sell these items and I myself was skeptical of it when I first started working with RKK. However, the idea was to use whatever $ was made from those sales to further distribute the information. RKK lowered the price of the Book from $45 to $25 and we gave away the book and CD-ROMs with the audio tapes on them to libraries and Universities. There were never any “profits”, it all went to providing the class’ information to those who wanted it.

RKK also chose to start charging $15 per video tape as demand skyrocketed after the news broke. If the video tapes were copied and returned the $ was refunded. It’s true that the class did not charge for the video tapes but it’s also true that making hundreds of VHS copies costs money and the $15 charge was to recoup those costs. The class did state that they thought RKK would “know best how to distribute the tapes”. For charging this reasonable fee (no other former members put up any $ for the copying of these tapes at the time) RKK was accused of “profiting” off of the class’ materials. In fact, Rio had the gall to claim that RKK’s failed Exit attempt in May of ’97 “may have been for profit”. Sure, he swallowed six grams of phenobarbital and put a plastic bag over his head so he could wake up over twenty-four hours later chained to a hospital bed all so he could make some $. This coming from the guy who had a $2.5 million deal with ABC who was being put up in a hotel in L.A. for weeks on ABC’s dime. Perhaps Rio was envious that it was RKK and not himself who was tasked with “putting it on the Internet”. Perhaps Rio is guilty of the very things that he accused RKKODY of and that’s his real motivation for trying to project his shortcomings onto someone else.

When Mark was trying to prevent RKK from distributing the book he tried to use the argument that RKK was giving out the First Edition and Mark had the Third edition which was “all new stuff” according to Mark. The “all new stuff” was one paper by ANLODY that was written in Feb. of 1997 and some editing changes. And as I’ve pointed out previously there were a couple of items in the First Edition that weren’t in the Third Edition. This is just another of the innumerable examples where Mark King used deception and manipulation to try to get what he wanted. These are not behaviors that were acceptable in the class.

I don’t know why these self-proclaimed “four surviving members” are continuing to push this narrative that they are the martyrs of Heaven’s Gate and doing all that they can do to “get the information out. Period” (Mark King on Art Bell in ’97). What I’ve observed that unites at least Rio with Mark is deception and arrogance. Neither of them ever mentioned RKK except during their cowardly appearance on the Art Bell show where they lied about what happened after the class left and praised themselves to the point where I wanted to vomit. They have been trying to control this false narrative ever since Rio claimed that he was the “sole surviving member” in March of 1997.

RKK’s efforts for the class speak for themselves. Do’s trust in him speaks for itself. Who else got a call from Do in December of 1996 asking them to open up a mail box under the name Right To Know? Now of course TELAH claims that they also received “phone calls” from the class leading up to their departure but they made no mention of such things in the initial several weeks after the class left, their memory of these phantom calls didn’t seem to get spurred until AFTER they spoke to the entertainment lawyer. They also became curiously interested in “their tasks” that RKK was “interfering” with only after they spoke to the lawyer.

Sawyer has claimed that the Kings were to be the “primary” in distributing the information and yet I have pointed out exhaustively that the masters to the Exit videos were given to RKK as well as the discs with the final statements as well as JHN being given the masters to the Beyond Human series and OSC being asked to register the Book with the Library of Congress. The Kings were told to give the “items of value” in the storage lockers to those who wanted to “disseminate our infornation”. To this day that has not been done and it is an action (or inaction) that goes directly against the “desire” of the class.

Without RKK’s efforts it’s most likely that none of the class’ audio tapes would be available. For some bizarre reason many former members have decided that Mark is in charge and whatever he says is the law in this regard even though he has done nothing but lie for over twenty years about what happened after the class left and suppress their information. We don’t get closer to Ti and Do by pleasing former class members. Standing for and with TELAH, Rio or Sawyer is not necessarily standing for Ti, Do and the Next Level.

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Proof from Do Himself that Sawyer, Rio, MRC and JHN are wrong about who Do was “targeting” with His invitation to leave this world

“Now if you’re viewing this right now and you’re hearing what I’m saying, you might, after hearing this, you might go read the information, and you might say, GOODNESS THAT’S ME AND THEY’VE GONE (emphasis mine); if you act quickly and you leave this world of your own choice; what? Go commit suicide? Suicide is separating from the Kingdom of God when the Kingdom of God has offered life to you”.

RKK and I used to talk about these words from Do in His Final Exit video and just this morning they came to me again and I found the spot in the video (at @ the ten minute mark) where Do discussed individuals who hadn’t heard of Him before the video was made.

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From “Our Position against Suicide”

“It has always been our way to examine all possibilities, and be mentally prepared for whatever may come our way. For example, consider what happened at Masada around 73 A.D. A devout Jewish sect, after holding out against a siege by the Romans, to the best of their ability, and seeing that the murder, rape, and torture of their community was inevitable, determined that it was permissible for them to evacuate their bodies by a more dignified, and less agonizing method. We have thoroughly discussed this topic (of willful exit of the body under such conditions), and have mentally prepared ourselves for this possibility (as can be seen in a few of our statements). However, this act certainly does not need serious consideration at this time, and hopefully will not in the future.

The true meaning of “suicide” is to turn against the Next Level when it is being offered. In these last days, we are focused on two primary tasks: one – of making a last attempt at telling the truth about how the Next Level may be entered (our last effort at offering to individuals of this civilization the way to avoid “suicide”)”

The class left their information behind for a reason. They said things like, “only through a REP, or information left behind by a REP, can an individual learn what it takes to become a new creature that is acceptable to enter the Kingdom of Heaven” for a reason. There is still a unique opportunity for individuals to catch the eye of the Next Level before this civilization is recycled. The forces against the Next Level have used individuals who were in the class to suppress, distort and dilute the Next Level information that Ti, Do and the class left for the world. That information is the only true source of Next Level Mind on this planet. It is the ONLY way out of here.

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Suicide according to the class vs. Sawyer’s perspective

“We stand for a liberal euthanasia program – if someone wants to drop their vehicle, they should have a right to do so”. -JNNODY

“I discourage anyone who tells me they are considering suicide. That has happened several times over the years.

I don’t believe anyone now is in the same place as those 38 students who laid down their human lives in 1997. Dying is not an automatic ticket into Heaven as has been generally taught in some religious and spiritual belief systems. DO and Crew wrote,

“We know that it is only while we are in these physical vehicles (bodies) that we can learn the lessons needed to complete our own individual transition, as well as to complete our task of offering the Kingdom of Heaven to this civilization one last time. We take good care of our vehicles so they can function well for us in this task, and we try to protect them from any harm.”

To me it seems like Sawyer is using the above statement by the class to justify his belief that no one should follow in their footsteps. He claims that no one “is in the same place as those 38 students” but he seems to be ignoring the fact that five others-including four former members of the class-took the same step of voluntarily leaving this world. One of them left three years later and one of them left twice. Were they “in the same place as those 38 students”? Where did the class state that one had to be “in the same place as those 38 students” in order to take that step? To me it’s always been awful convenient that Sawyer takes such a strong position against anyone taking that step as he himself has admitted that he doesn’t “look forward” to leaving this world. Is he picking and choosing what he wants from the class’ teachings to justify his position? Does the class stating,

“We know that it is only while we are in these physical vehicles (bodies) that we can learn the lessons needed to complete our own individual transition, as well as to complete our task of offering the Kingdom of Heaven to this civilization one last time”

justify his position that he needs to stay here? Does it mean that he needs to tell everyone to stay here? On the flipside I do think that if someone is telling others that they are considering taking that step then they aren’t truly serious about it. It’s also very disturbing to me that they would put someone else in such an uncomfortable position by telling them, it sounds more like they want someone to talk them out of it rather than the following,

“We suggest that anyone serious about considering this go into their most quiet place and ask, scream, with all of their being, directing their asking to the Highest Source they can imagine (beyond Earth’s atmosphere), to give them guidance. Only those “chosen” by that Next Kingdom will know that this is right for them, and will be given the courage required to act”.

“You can read more about how they thought about suicide in this document that is posted on the Heavens Gate Website that I re-posted to my blog at:

https://sawyerhg.wordpress.com/2016/11/23/our-position-against-suicide-by-do-and-crew-posted-on-heavensgate-com/

Further perspectives of suicide are explained in a document one of Ti and Do’s students wrote that was included in their Heaven’s Gate Book, along with many other subjects is here:

https://sawyerhg.wordpress.com/2013/12/20/evolutionary-rights-for-victims/”

“My understanding is that the soul is actually freed from the discomfort of an old “suit of clothes” when the vehicle is dropped. It doesn’t make any sense to me that the driver “dies” when his “car” (body) stops “running.” To me, the body is just a “leaf” of the “tree,” and the genetic strain (family tree) doesn’t end when the leaf’s function becomes impaired. When it is becoming a burden on me and others, and whenever my choices are so restricted that growth is impossible, or ridiculously difficult, it is part of the design to evacuate it like a tree sheds a leaf. In contrast, human suicide (identifying as the body and trying to “end it all” for the purpose of avoiding the growth pains of lessons) gets you nowhere. It seems clear that longevity, physical beauty, and sex appeal are all Luciferian concepts based on identifying as only the body and its desires. After all, what’s the point of extending a life that’s meaningless?”-STMODY

Here we see STM differentiating between “human suicide” and “evacuate(ing)” a vehicle. This of course brings up the very tricky issue of motivations.

“How could I honestly say I love Him more than anything if I cling to this world at all costs and only leave here when I am forced to go when this vehicle ceases to function?” GLN

“You would ask me, “What if God wants you to live your life out.” I can’t imagine that this is the case. That is logic based upon the “Luciferian” definition of “life” — that “I” am this vehicle. There is no life here in the human world. This planet has become the planet of the walking dead. The human plants walk, talk, take careers, procreate, and so forth, but there is no life in them. It is all just a counterfeit illusion crafted by the forces in opposition to the Next Level. This has become the planet of pain — deep inside there is no joy in the humans, although they superficially convince themselves they are happy. I have been given this rare and golden opportunity to leave this world and return to life, to become a newborn in the Evolutionary Level Above Human. Suicide would be to turn away from this incredible opportunity I’ve been given, to turn my back on the Next Level and the life they are offering after all the care and nurturing”. -GLNODY

 “The controversy surrounding Doctor Kevorkian is whether or not it is acceptable to willingly exit the vehicle due to physical pain and suffering. We feel that the mental suffering of remaining in a world where you know you do not belong is certainly as severe. The human world is a hideous hell due to all of the poor choices humans have made since the beginning of this civilization. If this is all there is with nothing to look forward to beyond this, then why choose to extend your time in this hell”?-GLNODY

“During a brief window of time, some may wish to follow us. If they do, it will not be easy. The requirement is to not only believe who the Representatives are, but, to do as they and we did. You must leave everything of your humanness behind. This includes the ultimate sacrifice and demonstration of faith — that is, the shedding of your human body. If you should choose to do this, logistically it is preferred that you make this exit somewhere in the area of the West or Southwest of the United States — but if this is not possible — it is not required. You must call on the name of TI and DO to assist you. In so doing, you will engage a communication of sorts, alerting a spacecraft to your location where you will be picked up after shedding your vehicle, and taken to another world — by members of the Kingdom of Heaven.

Only a Member of the Next Level can give you Life — can take you out of “Death” — but it requires that you disconnect, separate, from the last element holding you to the human kingdom.

We know what we’re saying — we know it requires a “leap of faith.” But it’s deliberate — designed for those who would rather take that leap than stay in this world.

We suggest that anyone serious about considering this go into their most quiet place and ask, scream, with all of their being, directing their asking to the Highest Source they can imagine (beyond Earth’s atmosphere), to give them guidance. Only those “chosen” by that Next Kingdom will know that this is right for them, and will be given the courage required to act”.

Rio claimed that the above statement was “targeted to former class members”. He also claimed that if he wasn’t “given this task” that he would have “considered it”. He also conveniently never showed anyone the letter that the class sent to him. I’ve already documented how the letters to RKK and MRC/SRF contained what I feel were invitations to follow Do and the class and I strongly feel that the same invitation was contained in all the letters that they sent to former class members. Rio has admitted that he never even “considered” taking that step and so has Sawyer. And they both have claimed that they were given “tasks” and they both seem to use those “tasks” as something of a justification for staying here.

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On the supposed signs of Ti, Do and the class that Sawyer repeatedly brings up

I have decided to do a one-eighty on my attempt ( which I failed at anyway) to not address things that Sawyer has been saying for years and continues to say. He has accused me of “doing next to nothing to combat misinformation” (with the subtext of his statement being that he is doing all the work of combating misinformation) so I am going to once again compare what Sawyer has said and what the class had to say.

Sawyer has claimed that he is an “active student” of Ti and Do. There is a line in the HG Book about connecting with an “active student” and this seems to be where Sawyer got this idea. When the HG Book was written there were “active students” here on earth. I’ve already pointed out that only one individual was listed as a “current classmember (sic) in a satellite circumstance” when the class left and that was OSC who has been gone since the year 2000. RIO Diangelo, MRC/SRF, RKK and all the others who received FedEx packages were described as “former classmembers”. Sawyer is not mentioned in any of the letters. So, if he is an “active student” that is something that he has decided by himself, there is NO evidence that the class considered him in that regard when they left.

Now, he will say that he has become an active student since he decided that Ti and Do and some students have visited him in dreams. But if one were to carefully study Ti and Do’s information there is nothing in there that jives with Sawyer’s claim of being an “active student” and that there would be a “different kind of classroom” after the real classroom departed the planet. I challenge Sawyer and any of his followers to find ANYTHING in Ti and Do’s teachings to support his claim that he is an “active student” of Ti and Do. The source of this claim-like much of what Sawyer says-is solely himself. He has decided that he is an active student and he seems to expect the world to accept that and he seems to have conned some of his naive and ignorant followers into believing in his self-appointed status.

“Sawyer thinks the classroom now is wherever we are or want to be to put our time and concentration on learning all about Ti and Do and sharing that with others when circumstances arise”. From description of Sawyer’s Nov. 25, 2019 livestream. So, it sounds to me like he is using the term “classroom” to describe his livestreams.

Sawyer is still going on and on about supposed signs in the heavens from Ti, Do and the Next Level. These are just from the last year or so:

From October 22, 2019 -The Interstellar Objects Comet Borisov Oct 2019 and Oumuamua Oct 2017 Could these be direct representations of DO and TI respectively?

From November 25, 2019 Evidence of whether this is something the Next Level has stimulated is by it’s unusual nature as Two Two Objects moving together but being very different – filmed uncloaking and one gradually getting very much bigger and looking a little like a Starship Enterprise and the other remaining relatively small and looking like two objects to end up looking like a cross on it’s side.

From Nov. 16, 2019 UFO over Sun via SOHO camera – Another Sign from TI and DO? I propose this being what Jesus said would be signs in the sun, moon and stars (planets).

From Dec. 14, 2019 Signs in Sun, Moon and Stars: Int’l Space Station “Armada”  Were these all space junk as NASA usually surmises? Or is it cgi images done in an earth studio or is it space aliens or human technology or was it generated by TI and Do’s Next Level Crew.

Signs in the Heavens for the period dec 2019 to feb 2020

From March 7, 2020 Wheel within a Cross within a wheel – Sign in/near Sun So if it’s a sign then what is it a sign of, some may wonder. Well it can be a sign for whoever pays attention to it – a sign of the times and a reminder that the Next Level are watching and working on helping people wake up more to their reality.

From March 23, 2020 Comet Alas, Betelgeuse brightening, Two Witnesses=BO and Peep (DO and TI)

From March 25, 2020 Comet Atlas, Betelgeuse brightening, DO’s Face in Prophecy

From March 28, 2020 Comet Atlas DO’s Face in Prophecy and unusual events worldwide I believe we are currently in the time period of the 4th seal opening when more of who TI and Do is revealed.

From April 8, 2020 DO and Crews Armada of Spacecrafts Could Be Coming with Comet Atlas

From April 20, 2020

DO and Crews Armada of Spacecrafts = 7th Closeness

From May 15, 2020 Perhaps the 19 Objects seen near Jupiter are part of DO’s Armada

From July 1st, 2020 Comet Atlas divided – Could DO be showing us His Armada

From November 10, 2020 Apophis – DO’s sign of soon return? The Rev 6 “Face?”

And there are more but I’m already weary of looking through the descriptions of his livestreams.

Compare all of the above to what the class had to say in the HG Book:

“He (a correspondent) had asked whether or not we would perform miracles of any kind. In other words, HE ASKED FOR A SIGN (emphasis mine). The prophesy said “no sign other than the sign of Jonah”. The “sign of Jonah” is symbolic”.

Or once again from Beyond Human, Session Seven:

“There’s so much that I can’t understand from where I sit, because even playing the role of teacher and a vessel with students and potentially with more students, relatively very little information is funneled through that Teacher role. Because only the information that is funneled can be helpful. Any information that seems to come through that can’t be helpful in the overcoming process might have earmarks of being separate or unnecessary information, and I don’t feel that our Father’s Kingdom sends unnecessary information. That’s what happens when questions come up that have relatively no significance, no real relationship to our overcoming. We can get into theorizing about things that might go on in the heavens that really have nothing to do with our overcoming. And we can play the game of exploring a little bit, but it opens the door to possibly listening to other voices or letting self come in, and/or playing the game of “what if” or guessing what it might be”.

I find this to be particularly interesting, “We can get into theorizing about things that MIGHT (emphasis mine) go on in the heavens that really have NOTHING (emphasis mine) to do with our overcoming”.

In addition to all of his talk about what’s going on in the heavens Sawyer will discuss the Book of Revelation extensively. Once again, here’s what Do had to say about that in BH, Session Eleven:

 “It doesn’t really matter. It isn’t significant to us. It’s no basis for our allegiance to our task. And it shouldn’t be to you. If you can think of it in that light, and just simply be amused by it, because we’re not trying to lock in on what we’re doing with fulfillment of the prophecies in the Book of Revelation, or Isaiah, or anyplace else, or Daniel”.

Sawyer has also claimed that the Next Level may use him to exemplify certain “proofs” (sic) of the Next Level such as a dream he had about a plane crash many years ago.

From the ’88 Update:

“In our overcoming, no “proof” that would ever satisfy the scientific community was offered (no spacecraft landed in our backyard). But, through the nurturing of faith, we came to know the reality of the Next Level and that Ti and Do are our Older Members”.

Sawyer claims that all that he does is for Ti, Do and the Next Level. His livestreams, his book and apparently everything that he does is in service to them. And apparently he has convinced others of this viewpoint. I had had some correspondence with one of his followers awhile back and told her why I didn’t trust Sawyer and the things that he says. She essentially said ok, I understand. Shortly after that an individual was commenting on this blog and she decided to tell that individual that they shouldn’t listen to me and went on the attack.

I have repeatedly told individuals to NOT listen to me, that if they want the most accurate information about what Ti, Do and the class stood for then they need to look at the information that they left behind. Interestingly the individual who decided that she needed to foist her opinion off on someone who didn’t ask for it has mysteriously dropped out of sight (digitally speaking). She had supposedly been very gung-ho about Ti and Do’s information and was transcribing some of the videos made by the class. During the same time frame as her attack on me on this blog I received an e-mail from someone who asked me if I still “believe” in Ti and Do and it all seemed very suspicious to me and I essentially told the person that I was suspicious of their e-mail. I find it even more suspicious that the person in question seemed to drop out of sight after I expressed said suspicions.

This is a bit similar to the situation with Austin (xf) from Canada. After he had put up a bunch of egotistical garbage online about the “true blue believers” in HG and those that were against them (presumably me) I let him have it with the truth about all the lies that he had told and how he had continuously glossed over what he had done as being somehow in defense of Ti, Do and the class. I also called him out for his repeated claims that he “came clean” when in fact he got caught and when he got caught he attacked the HG teachings and told me to send him a “postcard from hell”. Shortly after I let him have it he removed his online presence in relation to HG ( as he had done many times before) and now he is mute on the subject. According to Sawyer Austin had some particular issue with something to do with Moses apparently and that supposedly lead to Austin saying that he doesn’t “believe” anymore.

I’ve already pointed out how Austin had previously created a fake online religion called the Gates of Fox Mulder and had pretended to be multiple different individuals online just like he created multiple fake “new believers” in HG supposedly to counter the “negative media portrayals” of Heaven’s Gate. Or maybe he’s just a sick individual who likes the attention that he got online from deceiving people. He actually tried to claim that he was a victim of himself, that he had started to believe in his online fakes as if that somehow excused his knowing and willful lies that he told for years.

To me it always felt like Austin was trying to get the Next Level to prove itself to him. He supposedly had all of these aspirations for going beyond human but he went about it with a web of lies and to me he seemed to use his self-appointed status as an HG believer as a vehicle for attacking others and feeling smugly self-righteous. I believe that Austin is a prime example of “do not throw your pearls before swine”. He used my and Sawyer’s belief in Ti and Do for his own selfish purposes, to get attention for himself and only “came clean” after several months had passed. I believe that he only came crawling back because he missed the attention that he was getting previously. His apologies always felt false and hollow to me and the fact that he went on the attack when he didn’t get an initial response from me proved ( to me at least) that he didn’t really feel remorse and that his “apology” was entirely self-serving.

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Both Sawyer and TELAH have accused each other of not being “credible” when it comes to the teachings of Ti and Do. They’re both right.

I saw a recent e-mail exchange between TELAH and an individual who posted on redditt. I no longer can find the post but when asked about Sawyer TELAH stated that he was not sanctioned or approved by “Ti, Do and the Next Level” and that his use of “our copyrights and trademarks is illegal”.

Ironically Sawyer has essentially said the same thing about TELAH, that they aren’t a good source of information about “what the group taught and believed in”.

Interestingly neither of them mention the information that the group left behind when they take their potshots at each other. They have all become so blinded by how important they think that all that they’re doing is for “Ti, Do and the Next Level” that they conveniently forget to mention all the information that the class left behind for the world. Sawyer and the Kings seem to be primarily interested in drawing attention to themselves and what they do rather than the actual teachings of Ti and Do.

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Right To Know vs. The TELAH Foundation

Written in 1997 by RKK/CRL

A group named TELAH foundation, made up of former members Mark and Sara King who operate the Postnet on Greenway Rd in Phoenix AZ. are trying to prevent others from offering and distributing information and materials about Heaven’s Gate. 

During the period  between 1982 and 1997. The group made hundreds of audio tapes during their intimate classroom meetings.   Right to Know has digitized and is distributing about 200 of these audio tapes from the years 1982 – 1985 on to two (2)  CD-ROMS.

TELAH has possession of the remaining tapes and is activily trying to prevent the public from access to those tapes. They have been intimidating people who receive the CD-ROM from Right to Know  and have for months been interfering with anyone who attempts to make this material available. 

The Group had prepared a large Blue Book that was initially distibuted through TELAH and the copyright on that book was designed to allow ANYONE the right to copy and distribute that material.  After the “Exit”, TELAH has been working with lawyers to change the copyright and claim ownership of that material.  This goes against the very essence of what this group was all about and is a self-centered attempt by a few individuals to prevent this world from learning what Heaven’s Gate had to offer.

If you wish to examine the information and materials for yourself, please see the Right to Know web site for details on obtaining the CD ROM’s that TELAH does not want you to see.

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The heaven’s gate website before TELAH took control of it

https://web.archive.org/web/19971212001005/http://www.heavensgate.com/

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Proof from the wayback machine concerning TELAH’s lies

An individual on redditt posted this a few years ago. This has been addressed in a previous post. They get a few things wrong and the original links in their piece don’t work but I am thankful that they drew attention to the story of who controls hg.com and how long have they controlled it.

After emailing back and forth a bit I learned that who I was speaking with had been a member for 12 years which puts them quite a few years after the mass suicide.

To me, this means there are other members who must date back to March 1997 or sooner who passed on the web admin responsibility to newer recruits.

I was still skeptical.. Could this still be a hoax? Maybe the domain name wasn’t renewed and someone else snatched it up as a joke? I took to web archives to check and actually found something much more interesting.

A capture from April 3, 1997 shows the site like this. Note: this link does not work. Try this one for a screenshot of the site from Feb. 3rd, 1998: https://web.archive.org/web/19980203123225/http://www.heavensgate.com/ That is eight days after the Heaven’s Gate mass suicide was discovered. So much for the site being “left as is was in March, 1997”.

As a matter of fact, I can’t find a capture until December 12, 1997 of the site as we know it today. Quite sometime after March. There are some key differences..

A paragraph at the top of this site from 12/12/97 trash talks an organization called TELAH for trying to suppress information regarding Heaven’s Gate(apparently some audio tapes). The address at the bottom of this page is:

RIGHT TO KNOW

2532 Lincoln Blvd.

Suite 174

Venice, CA 90291

Today the site reads:

TELAH Services

4757 E. Greenway Rd. Ste. 103-178

Phoenix, AZ 85032

Why does TELAH never mention this in their online interviews? Why do those who interview them not ask about this? Why is TELAH always very vague when it comes to the “instructions” that they claim that they received from the class? Why did they never mention to RKK and GNR in March of 1997 the supposed “10 months” of instructions that they now claim they received from the group prior to receiving the FedEx package? Why did TELAH tell RKK and I that we were “wrong” in assuming that all the instructions came in the FedEx packages? What other instructions did they receive, when did they receive them and why were they never mentioned prior to an e-mail that was sent to RKK and I in the fall of 1997? Why does TELAH only give online interviews?

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