Standing for Ti and Do

Sawyer often speaks of “standing for Ti and Do”. He has been maintaining for over fifteen years that that is what he is doing. Apparently Sawyer feels that the best way to stand for Ti and Do is to repeatedly tell the Internet that you are doing so. After a certain point it began to feel like a lot of grandstanding to me. Who exactly is Sawyer trying to prove it to that he’s “standing for Ti and Do”? For a long time Sawyer had been calling his blog Sawyer at Heaven’s Gate until I pointed out that he’s not really “at Heaven’s Gate” but rather on planet earth. He tried to argue with me at first but he did eventually change it.

Sawyer has claimed that “we need to talk about Ti and Do” and that this “need” is “part of the overriding requirement to be saved for a future classroom”. My question is, do we have to talk about it with Sawyer during his livestreams? Does he always have to be the center of this “need to talk about Ti and Do”? Here’s what JWNODY had to say about taking a “stand”,

“In order to get saved for further planting, the overriding requirement is to recognize that this is true (these are the facts). You must believe that we represent the Kingdom that created this planet and all of its inhabitants. And you must be willing to take a stand in defense of that belief, and sustain that stand until the end – your departure – regardless of the consequences”.

The specifics of taking a stand are not outlined here. Perhaps no individual on planet earth is qualified to say what that taking a “stand” means for others. For the members of the class taking that stand meant leaving everything of this world including their own lives in it. Sawyer has claimed that that “stand” was “only for them”. Nowhere in any of the information that the class left behind did they ask one of their dropouts to tell the world how one should be taking a stand for Ti and Do. Sawyer wants us to believe that we can take a stand for Ti and Do by tuning into his livestreams and letting him talk at us about Ti and Do.

Is that really standing for Ti and Do? What I’ve seen from many of his followers is a tendency to defend Sawyer as if that is the same thing as standing for Ti and Do. His followers focus their energy on Sawyer and how much time he spent in the class because Sawyer tells them to do so. Sawyer deliberately draws attention to himself, he tells the world that listening to him talk about his experiences in the class is serving Ti and Do. He will say “we need to talk about Ti and Do” but maybe it’s more that Sawyer feels compelled to do all this talking. And maybe rather than having a discussion about Ti and Do Sawyer is more interested in giving a lecture and listening to praise from his followers although he will vehemently deny this. Maybe all of Sawyer’s talk about what “we” need to do to take a stand for Ti and Do is simply what Sawyer feels that he needs to do. Maybe Sawyer isn’t in ANY kind of position to tell others what they should be doing when it comes to Ti and Do. Maybe no one on this planet is qualified to tell one how they should be taking a stand for Ti and Do.

Maybe Sawyer is afraid to take the stand that the members of the class and others took in following Do out of here. Maybe that fear is his primary motivation for telling others that they shouldn’t take that stand. Maybe we need to respect each individual’s right to make their own choices when it comes to Ti and Do instead of letting our own fears dictate what we think others should be doing. Sawyer doesn’t have the monopoly on all things Heaven’s Gate. Sawyer doesn’t get to tell me what I “need” to “show” Ti and Do. Sawyer doesn’t get to tell me what I “need” to do to “be saved for a future classroom”.

Sawyer DOES NOT represent Ti and Do. He does not represent the Next Level. He was not asked to stay behind to do any of the things that he’s doing. He is here for the same reason that everyone else is here, by his own choice.

“The only question that remains unanswered is how long the Next Level will permit the alien forces to present their agenda – how long is long enough for all souls to pledge their allegiance for or against – to one side or the other. Every soul must be put to the final test. And as we warned you at the outset, consider your options thoroughly. Hasty judgments are ill-advised”.

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Misinformation on Reddit about those “left behind”

“They kept a couple people alive specifically to run the website”.

The class did not “keep” anyone “alive specifically to run the website”. I’ve already documented how the letters to the Kings and RKK had an invitation to follow Do. And the Internet Acct. Info was given to four individuals and ONLY RKK was specifically asked to ” assist us in this capacity for whatever length of time feels right to you”. RKK was “specifically” asked to “run the website”, not Mark and Sarah King.

“They will provide anything. That’s the point of why they stayed behind”.

Anything except the volumes of audio tapes that Mark King manipulated RKK into giving him. They “stayed behind” because they didn’t want to follow Do. Period.

“There are two members who were specifically spared in order to maintain the site”.

Again, no one was “specifically spared” and these “two members” were NOT asked to “maintain the site”, RKK and RKK alone was asked to “maintain the site”.

“There are still members. There were members that stayed behind.

As I’ve previously documented the ONLY individual who was referred to as a “current classmember in a satellite circumstance” was OSC. Mark and Sarah King were specifically referred to in the “LIST OF THOSE WHO RECEIVED SIMILAR PACKETS” document as “FORMER (emphasis mine) classmembers  currently handling TELAH’s mail”. Something interesting about this document that I just noticed is that the Kings are the only ones whose class names are not listed next to the vehicle’s names. Example, Chuck Humphrey (a.k.a RKK).

“one member did not commit suicide explicitly to keep the site going and answer questions”.

Where did this information come from? No one was asked to “answer questions”. And who is the “one member” that they’re referring to?

 

Why do you believe you were left behind? 

It wasn’t a belief. We were asked to fill the position of maintaining the website, emails and the physical, and intellectual properties. It was very clear and we were honored to do it.-Mark and Sarah King

No, RKK was asked to maintain the site and the Kings were merely given the Internet Acct. Info. OSC was given the HG Book to register with the Library of Congress, RKK was given the masters for the Exit videos with instructions to “distribute them” and JHN was given the Beyond Human masters and it sounds like others were given the master tapes to some other videos. The Kings may have fooled their interviewers and numerous redditers with their lies but if I know the truth and RKK knows the truth I can guarantee that Ti, Do and the Next Level know the truth. The Kings can hide here until their vehicles expire if they want to but they will eventually be held accountable for the lies that they’re telling in Ti and Do’s names.

 

How many of you were left behind?

Eight. Four are left.

Wrong. Eight individuals were sent FedEx packages. “Also we want to make it clear that we’re certainly not asking you to do this if, after receiving this information, circumstances make it to difficult or other options seem more appropriate to you. No doors are closed to you”. The class never once stated that They were “leaving” anyone “behind”.

How did the Next Level leave you instructions?

There is too much information even to begin to explain. It came before and after they departed via email, phone and packages we received the next day.

In e-mails to RKK and myself Mark and Sarah King claimed that we were “wrong” to think that “all the instructions” came in the FedEx packages. They’ve repeated this claim about “email and phone calls” from the class, even claiming that they received phone calls right up “until they left”. Since the Kings gave RKK everything from their FedEx package to RKK it’s awful convenient that they would later claim that there were these other supposed instructions from the class. RKK saw the Kings multiple times after the class left and as far as I remember he didn’t relate to me that they had ever said anything about getting “emails” and “phone calls” from the class before the class Exited. And how could “email” and “phone” calls come in both “before and after they departed”? Only later, after talking to an entertainment attorney, did this story about these supposed communications from the class come out. It’s interesting that the Kings claim that, “There is too much information even to begin to explain”. No, I have all the information that the class sent to the Kings. It’s not that difficult to explain. I have been specific and have put these materials online. The Kings have been vague and have offered no documented proof from the class to back up anything that they say.

“Suicide is futile. The human condition is to be born, live a life, die and reincarnate again. Committing suicide is a waste of time. You just have to repeat the lesson steps again. There is no heaven or hell, only an endless cycle of reincarnation. Only those 38 individuals were allowed to break that cycle and enter the Next Level”.-The Kings

Compare this to what Ti, Do and the class actually said. They NEVER said, “There is no heaven or hell, only an endless cycle of reincarnation”

“I read they designated certain people to stay behind and keep the site up to spread the message”

Mark and Sarah King are responsible for all of this misinformation. They would rather cover up the truth about what happened after the class left and talk about how “honored” they are. Apparently they are “honored” to tell lies and to suppress Ti and Do’s information. I really, really wouldn’t want to be in their shoes when they try to explain how all of these selfish things that they’ve said and done were for The Next Level.

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More (of the same) lies from TELAH and their similarities to what Sawyer’s preaching

“The website is to provide information for their future return. We are designated to maintain and care for it”.

TELAH made the above claim in one of their patented self-aggrandizing interviews. Again, no mention that RKK and RKK alone was sent the disks with the Final Statements of the class with instructions to upload them. No mention of the fact that RKK had to remove the TELAH address from hg.com at Mark’s insistence in March of 1997. No mention of the FACT that TELAH didn’t get control of the website until RKK left in February of 1998. No mention of the fact that TELAH did not file a lawsuit UNTIL immediately after RKK was gone. I wonder why they waited until RKK was gone to file their lawsuit? It’s almost as if the they were waiting, maybe even hoping, that he would leave and not because they were happy that RKK was successful in leaving this world to follow Do.

“Humans are not to commit suicide. Those 38, and those 38 only, we allowed to shed their human body, take on space-capable, Next Level bodies and depart this planet. No human can do that or would be allowed to do that”.

I’m hoping that the “we” is a typo and they meant to say “were allowed”. Anyway, The statement about “those 38 only” blatantly fails to mention the five other individuals (four of them former class members, two of whom received FedEx packages like the Kings did) who also took that step. And of course the “those 38 only” statement is DIRECTLY contradicted by the Final Press Release, If it was for “those 38 only” then why did the class put out the Final Press Release? If it was for “those 38 only” then why did five others take that step also?

Interestingly, despite the potshots that they’ve taken at each other, the Kings and Sawyer have remarkably similar views on the class’ Exit. Sawyer has claimed “that was for them” and innumerable other things about the Exit that he is in no position to make a judgment about. Both Mark and Sawyer have stated, “the Gate is closed” with Sawyer adding the caveat of “for now”. RKK talked about how the Kings seemed very apprehensive and nervous when the subject of leaving was brought up. Like Sawyer, who also seems to have no interest in even contemplating taking that step, it’s awful convenient that the Kings have decided that their personal choice has to be the same choice for everyone else and that that choice is somehow also the Next Level’s choice for everyone. Are they saying these things about “suicide” for The Next Level or are they saying them due to their own fears and insecurities? Are they saying these things to please The Next Level or are they saying them to please the world?

In the letter to the RKK and the Kings we find the following,

“Also we want to make it clear that we’re certainly not asking you to do these tasks if, after receiving this information, circumstances make it too difficult or OTHER OPTIONS SEEM MORE APPROPRIATE FOR YOU (emphasis mine). We want you to feel free to exercise ANY AVAILABLE OPTIONS (mine again) with whatever timing feels right for your own next step”.

Additionally, the letter to the Kings (but not to RKK) had another sentence following this, “No doors are closed to you”.

I wonder why the class felt to include this line in the letter to the Kings but not to RKK?

Speaking of wondering, I wonder why Do called RKK in December of 1996 and asked him to open up a mailbox under the name Right To Know? I wonder why RKK wasn’t successful in leaving the first time in May of 1997? Is it possible that Do received instruction from Ti to ask RKK to start up Right To Know? Did Ti and Do know something about what would happen after the Exit? Why was the name Right To Know chosen? Why has TELAH not produced one single piece of documentation from the class to back up their claims? Why has TELAH not produced one single shred of evidence from the class to verify that they are the supposed “surviving members” of Heaven’s Gate?

I know that Mark King is aware of this blog. I know that he has it in for me (I cause “problems” according to him) and hates the fact that I challenge his lies and self-imposed authority on all things Heaven’s Gate. Mark King hates the truth about what he’s done and instead of being a man and owning up to his lies he wants to hide behind his bullshit notion that the class “left everything” to him and his wife. He has claimed in interviews that I have “misinformed opinions” about him or some such garbage but he is conveniently NEVER specific about any of the things that I have brought up. On multiple occasions I have stated that if all that I’ve said about these matters is untrue then why hasn’t TELAH sued me for libel? I know that they have access to lawyers as they recently threatened legal action against a hip hop artist for copyright infringement.

 

 

 

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TELAH’s lies

“We were asked to fill the position of maintaining the website, emails and the physical, and intellectual properties,”-Mark and Sarah King of TELAH

The above claim was made in an online interview that TELAH gave which was recently regurgitated in an article about the “surviving members” of the class. What they fail to mention is that RKK and RKK alone was given the Final Press Release and Earth Exit Statements to upload to heavensgate.com. What they fail to mention is that the class asked RKK and RKK alone the following, “We are hoping that with your computer skills, you might choose to assist us in this capacity for whatever length of time feels right to you. We are particularly interested in having you upload the files on the third diskette entitled “Earth Exit, final press release”. The ONLY mention of anything to do with “maintaining the website” in the letter to the Kings was the following, “The Internet account information, however, we sent only to you, RKK, and OSC”.

In regards to the “intellectual properties” we find this in the letter to RKK regarding the Exit videos made by Do and the class,

“RKK, you have the original master for making further copies, which we are certainly encouraging”

Also, I know for a fact that the masters for the Beyond Human series were given to another former member of the group named JHN. And, in the letter to the Kings the class said this about Their Book,

“We also asked OSC to register the Heaven’s Gate book with the Library of Congress”

It’s my understanding that some masters of some of the other videos made by the class were given to other former members but as they are gone now it’s difficult to verify that. What they also fail to mention is that they refused to go to the storage lockers in San Diego County to retrieve the “items of value” that the class had placed there prior to Their Exit. They also fail to mention that later Mark begged RKK for the class’ audio tapes that RKK and OSC had removed from said lockers and transported to Arizona. RKK asked Mark if he would make the tapes available and Mark repeatedly assured him that they would be. It’s now been over twenty-three years since Mark manipulated RKK into giving him the tapes and TELAH has done NOTHING to make the tapes available. Rather than do as the class requested TELAH would rather give interviews talking about how “honored” they are to supposedly carry out the tasks that they had no interest in doing in March of 1997.

They also fail to mention that Mark King repeatedly asked RKK to remove the TELAH address from heavensgate.com as Mark was worried about the authorities. RKK did so when he was able.

TELAH claimed the following in the interview,

“The information must be available to mankind, in preparation for their return,”

They also fail to mention that they received NO instruction to copyright any of the class’ materials and yet this did so in direct contravention of the Common Law Copyright that the class had for Their book.

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What Ti and Do taught vs. what Sawyer is preaching (expansion of a previous post)

“I had wondered if Do would have me show anything to anyone that would seem miraculous”-Sawyer

“A lot of the followers were motivated by seeming “miracles that Jesus would do-…….But He soon began to realize that what they wanted for the most part was more miracles, that they didn’t really care about the information of overcoming”-Do. Beyond Human, Session 10

So we are supposed to believe that Do may use Sawyer to have him, “show anything to anyone that would seem miraculous”?!!! But what about, “We haven’t been given any powers. We don’t have any instruction to do any healing or any MIRACLES (emphasis mine)”-Do, BH, Session 10

Even though Do explicitly stated “We don’t….do….miracles”, Sawyer “wondered” if Do was going to use him to perform the “miraculous”?! But wait, there’s more:

“So if anyone hears of this kind of event of a mysterious letting down of an aircraft know that you heard it (sic)first and that it is one of many proves (sic) the Next Level will perhaps be willing to give to help some SEE more of the reality in this world filled with illusion”.

But again, what about this,

“you can’t get closer to our Father on the basis of what you have seen. Our Father does not give you PROOF (emphasis mine)”-Do, BH, Session 7

“With this dream, as I have been inquiring to Do how he was to “use me”, as he said in a recent dream he felt he could, I wondered if He was giving me a type of forecast or prophecy that by putting out publicly would demonstrate the connection to Ti and Do I have”

So, he wants us to believe that Do may have been “giving me a type of forecast or prophecy” and said prophecy “would demonstrate the connection to Ti and Do I (there’s that word again) have”. Apparently Sawyer thinks that “the connection to Ti and Do I have” is so important that Do may give him a “forecast” that will be put “out publicly”?! There is NOTHING in ANY of the information that the class left behind to support the above from Sawyer. He admits that it all came from his “dream”. In fact, Sawyer’s ideas are directly contradicted by numerous things that Do stated in the Beyond Human series as I’ve documented.

“Ti and Do said the Next Level doesn’t want to give undisputible  (sic) proof to anyone who still had the potiential (sic) to become one of their students. I understand that to be because of how such so called proof would be manipulative of our faith in them, the way the Luciferian space aliens did to Paul of Tarsus and others, like with Fatima and many other examples. The people that experience such supernatural looking events become mystified and mesmerized and hat gets recorded in history and passed on to future generations”.

And yet Sawyer wrote about “proves” (sic) that Do would use “to give to help some SEE more of the reality in this world filled with illusion”. This is yet another example of the contradictory nature of much of what Sawyer is preaching.

“Our task before us as it was laid out in prophecy as we are the “house of John” spoken of in the following passage and the little book may be the purple book but I suspect that’s a bit too much for most to digest easily. The purple book is mostly for the remnant, the house of John, those who believe in Ti and Do and have offerred (sic) our service and are taking in one step at a time as they lay out our tasks for us. For me, I suspect the book I am about to publish is certainly a “little book” compared to the purple book, not in volume but in potentcy (sic) but most of the people who are in line for the second harvest are more inclined to grasp the content of this “little book”

Where to start with this paragraph of rambling, self-absorbed garbage.

“Our task before us as it was laid out in prophecy”. What “task” exactly? And who is the “our” that he speaks of here? Does he speak for a group of individuals who have made him their spokesperson? Why is he assuming that he is qualified to tell us what “our task” is? Where did Ti and Do state that “our task….as it was laid out in prophecy”? And again he is talking about the “second harvest” which I have already documented was referring to those who joined the class in 1994. Yet another example of Sawyer distorting and corrupting what Ti, Do and the class taught.

So, even though the class wrote a book that was designed for public consumption Sawyer is making a judgment that that Book may be “a bit too much for most to digest easily” and he has made another judgment that the HG Book “is mostly for the remnant, the house of John” (whatever the hell that even means).  And even though the entire class collaborated on a Book that was an anthology of over twenty years of writings and even though Do said,  “We have put into Heavensgate just about everything we have to say, as far as we are capable”, Sawyer had made the judgment that “most of the people who are in line for the second harvest are more inclined to grasp the content of this “little book” (Sawyer’s book).

Here’s further evidence that the class was doing everything that they could to make Their Book more “digest(ible)”,

“As we experienced time and again, and as you will witness throughout this anthology, it is nearly impossible to take advanced non-human concepts and forces them into comprehensible human language-the “word processing” options of contemporary language are so extremely limiting. But it is part of our task to try. And so it is our hope that the reader will look beyond the awkwardness of the words we choose, that is, we hope you get to the intended meaning of the thought that lies behind them”-Section 1 : Exit Statements, How and When Heaven’s Gate May Be Entered

To me, that sounds like the class was well aware of the difficulty of some of Their ideas and concepts being “digest(ible)” and they were employing every effort to make it understandable. Nowhere did the class state that Their Book was for “the remnant, the house of John”.

The number of judgments that Sawyer is making here is extremely disturbing to me. He had NOTHING to do with the production of the HG Book and yet he knows who the Book is for and he knows that it’s a “bit too much for most to digest easily”. So, since the class didn’t do a good enough job of making Their Book “digest(ible)” we thankfully have Sawyer’s book which “most of the people who are in line for the second harvest are more inclined to grasp.

I was “in line for the second harvest” (and then quickly got out of line like a fool) and I will emphatically state that compared to the HG Book Sawyer’s book is a rambling piece of BULLSHIT and shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same sentence as the class’ Book. I’m not going to apologize for the coarse language. With his disgusting arrogance a little foul language is the least that Sawyer deserves. He will get his come-uppance for his self-importance but it won’t come from me of course.

“This little book is given to a student, which is why I dont’ (sic) think it’s the purple or blue books but it doesn’t really matter as the task we all have is to disseminate everything Ti and Do gave us and part of that entails the insights to decipher some of the records in the bible”.

I’ve seen the instructions from the class about disseminating Their information and they’re online for all to see. There isn’t anything in there about “the insights to decipher some of the records in the bible” being part of that “task”. This is the same guy who has deemed the suppressed audio tapes made by the class to not be “information we need” even though it is a large part of “everything Ti and Do gave us”. This is part of the pattern of inconsistency and talking out of both sides of his mouth that I keep observing from Sawyer. I am convinced that he often has no actual idea of what he is talking about and therefore he cannot keep track of all the contradictory things that he puts online.

Sawyer has elevated his “insights to decipher some of the records in the bible” above the audio tapes of Do instructing the students of the class in the ways, thinking and behavior of the Next Level. He will of course deny this in his patented 10,000 words or more.

“I suspect it was a forcast (sic) of the Boeing airliner mishap where a large hole just broke out of the planes cabin mysteriously and it lost pressure (a drop in altitude immedieatly (sic), as in the dream) and then started to fall, though safely landed (as in the dream, perhaps Next level assisted if the dream was a setup to send me/others a message) and no one was hurt at all but all were mesmerized (as in the dream).I did not immedieatly (sic) connect this event with the dream but I was asking when I’d see the dream as I did feel Ti and Do were giving me a forcast (sic)”

I don’t know what “Boeing airliner mishap” he is speaking of here. And I really don’t care.

“The dream I believe was in response to another dream previous to it, where Do told me “I can use you”, which followed a dream with two classmates telling me it was time for me to leave, which I suspect Do’s updated. I was distressed with the thought of leaving as I don’t want to leave yet”

And this attitude of “I was distressed with the thought of leaving as I don’t want to leave yet” probably has nothing to do with Sawyer telling the world that no one else should follow in Do and the class’ footsteps. Once again, is Sawyer really “in service” to Ti and Do with all that he’s doing or is he actually serving himself but using his time in the class to make his personal (dare I say selfish) choices so much more noble than they actually are?

“So I was seeking to know how Do might use me and I’d been wondering if Do might have me show certain proves (sic) to certain cynics, etc. like with ultimatums or some “sign” of some sort of Ti and Do’s power through whoever wanted to be their instrument”.

Again with the “proves(sic)” and the “signs” and even the “power”.

Again,

“We haven’t been given any powers”-Do

So, Ti and Do are going to “prove” themselves to “certain cynics” by having Sawyer demonstrating said “proves (sic)”?! Or by giving some “sign” of Their “power through whoever wanted to be their instrument”. And I wonder who the “whoever” is that Sawyer is discussing here?

“if I was to be used as an instrument of providing certain proves (sic), I would not have to second guess what might be shown others, to help them over the difficult hump of believing what is so unpopular as Ti and Do could simply show me (any believer that has asked for service and was attempting to be servicable (sic) by sharing with others the reality of who Ti and Do are) something in a dream”.

As is often the case I’m not really sure what Sawyer is trying to say here but it seems to have to do with his being ” an instrument of providing certain proves (sic)” that is somehow going to “help them over the difficult hump of believing”. This will apparently happen when, “Ti and Do could simply show me something in a dream”. Again with the whole proof thing and more of his dreams. Find me where Do discussed proving who He was by giving a class member (or anyone for that matter) “something in a dream”.

“I do consider myself an “active student” and thus a potential messenger for communications from Ti and Do”.

But how is he “an active student” when Do and the class stated that the class was “over” and They were all going to The Next Level? Who is Sawyer an “active student” of now?His dreams? The “spirits” that he claims that “TI’ showed him? And again, where did the class EVER state that they were leaving any kind of “messenger for communications from Ti and Do”?

“Any information and experience I pass on should only be part of what any beleiver (sic) considers as a potential answer to some of their questions to Ti and Do, as it depends on what Ti and Do decide how to answer someones questions, whether direct or indirect. Ti and Do don’t do everything themselves and don’t repeat themselves when they have helpers, “students” and/or new graduates that they can count on or want to count on to do certain tasks for the growth of those students and/or new graduates”.

Why should Sawyer’s “information and experience” be any “part of……a potential answer to some of their questions to Ti and Do”? What is Sawyer even talking about here? Ti, Do and the class went to a lot of effort to put Their information out “world wide” multiple times. Why should I or anyone ask anything of Sawyer when it comes to Ti and Do? They did not ask him to be Their “messenger” or to answer “questions” on Their behalf. They did mention in Their last letters that They hoped some might say something to “the media on their behalf”. RKK did that in 1997 and to a lesser extent so did myself and some others. Sawyer did an interview on 60 Minutes at the time. I wouldn’t necessarily say that he was saying things on the class’ “behalf” in said interview but he didn’t say anything negative about Them.

Is that what Sawyer is doing now? Saying things on Their “behalf”? I know that Sawyer believes this as he has recently brought up this line from the letters as a justification for all that he does. I obviously disagree and I think that he’s really saying things on his own behalf and he’s using his time spent in the class to claim that it’s all “for Ti and Do” and The Next Level. I don’t see any Next Level humility in Sawyer, I saw it in RKK but not in Sawyer. I see an arrogant fool who values his own “experience” as much as what Ti and Do taught. I see an individual who wants attention and recognition for being a “messenger” of Ti and Do. I see an individual who manipulates what Ti and Do taught and the amount of time that he spent in the class to suit his own self-important purposes.

“This time in 2017, as a part of this LAST “harvest” WAVE, includes what I believe is this “Little Book” that is also described in Rev 5:1 prophecy as the “backside” or “after” and/or the historic background “behind” (what was provided by Jehovah/Father and Moses/Jesus)”.

I’ve already documented that those who joined the class in 1994 (and possibly thereafter) were actually the “Last….Wave” according to the words of the class Themselves. How much more documentation from the class do we need before individuals who follow Sawyer like lemmings wake up to the fact the only thing that he is a “messenger” for is himself?

 

 

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The Origin of Sawyer’s self-appointed mission

 

“Over the next 5 yrs I had dreams galore, premonitions & signs from Do & students.I later reasoned that because I demonstrated still feeling connected & supportive, they were willing to give me another chance.I resisted but inside still loved Them so I engaged them & asked for signs & got them.Finally I said to them in my head, as remember they were all invisible, that I couldn’t leave my partner & daughter to which Ifelt (sic) the answer come back as “fine, that’s not necessary now”. I heard no words then but agreed.The next 5 yrs was facing the challenge of how, when, what & where I could serve them. I asked questions & received dream inperson (sic) answers from Do, from Ti, from several students”.

Twice in the above Sawyer mentions “signs”.

“so I engaged them & ASKED (emphasis mine) for signs”

“I had dreams galore, premonitions & signs from Do & students”

“The Next Level  the true Kingdom of God  has the only truly advanced space-time travel vehicles, or spacecrafts, and is not interested in creating phenomena (SIGNS, emphasis mine) or impressive trickery”.-Last Chance To Advance Beyond Human

“you can’t get closer to our Father on the basis of what you have seen. Our Father does not give you proof”-Beyond Human, Session 7

“A wicked and adulterous generation looks for a sign, but none will be given it except the sign of Jonah.”-Matthew 16:4

It’s interesting that Sawyer “asked” for a “sign” and yet Jesus said “a wicked and adulterous generation looks for a sign”.

“I, Sawyer was a fully dedicated member of the Heaven’s Gate cult of cults for 19 years, left of my own volition & have since come into public support of Ti & Do’s mission, even while having a family & “normal” life”.

To repeat, “No one who knows me or my Father would, PARTICULARLY AT THIS TIME, desire to continue preaching marriage, FAMILY (emphasis mine)”-The Jews and Christians document

Lastly, it’s interesting to me how many times Sawyer says “I”. As in, ‘I, Sawyer was a fully dedicated member” or “I had dreams galore, premonitions and signs” or “I demonstrated still feeling connected and supportive” (“demonstrated” how exactly?)  or “I couldn’t leave my partner and daughter”. And how convenient that he got the “answer” that he wanted to the question about his partner and daughter. To me it seems like Sawyer always gets the “answer” that he seems to  want when he is supposedly asking Ti and Do questions.

 

 

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What Do and the class thought of those who want “to extend their existence in the human kingdom”

“No one who knows me or my Father would, PARTICULARLY AT THIS TIME, desire to continue preaching marriage, family, church membership, Peace or Heaven on Earth, or to extend their existence in the human kingdom”-The Jews and Christians Promote Lies-Unknowingly

“Anybody telling you that there is any rightness to that, to leaving your vehicle, is wrong”-Sawyer

“This in no ways suggests anyone lay down their life. That’s not in store for any of us at this time, or during this lifetime”.-Sawyer

“for those that do begin to SEE who Ti and Do really are, laying down their life at this time I advise against”.-Sawyer

Remember, “No one who knows me or my Father would, PARTICULARLY at this time, desire to…..extend their existence in the human kingdom”.

So, does Sawyer, who is “advise(ing)” individuals to stay in this world “know me (Do) or my Father (Ti)”? Is not Sawyer here “preaching” that one should “extend their existence in the human kingdom”? And of course WHY is Sawyer telling individuals that they need to stay here? Does it have anything to do with his statement in regards to leaving this world, “I’m not looking forward to it”?

Why does Sawyer think that it’s his job to “advise” those who “begin to see Ti and Do”? Where did the class state that individuals should seek the “advice” of a former class member who has chosen to stay in the world over twenty years after they’re gone? Sawyer is “preaching” things that are DIRECTLY contradicted by Do’s words. If Sawyer is telling you to “extend your existence in the human kingdom” then that is coming from him and him alone. All of his talk about dreams of Ti and Do does not mean that he gets to re-interpret what They said and taught.

This is just one of the innumerable examples where Sawyer is corrupting what Ti and Do said for his own personal reasons. As far as I’m concerned Sawyer is the ENEMY of the Truth that Ti and Do brought into this world. I wouldn’t want to be in his shoes when he tries to explain how his distortions and corruptions of that Next Level Truth were all done in Their names.

 

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Some movies that the class approved of

Clear and Present Danger

The Client

The Shawshank Redemption

Forrest Gump

The Lion King (I was told that Do particularly liked this)

Man Facing Southeast (one I haven’t seen, it’s on youtube but the video quality is rather poor)

Starman

The Firm

Into The West

The Stand

Close Encounters of the Third Kind

Hook

Heart and Souls

Ghost

E.T.

 

 

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The bottom line on Sawyer vs. the information left behind by the class: there is no comparison

Sawyer has stated that he has no desire to leave this world. He is, in fact, “not looking forward to it”. Compare this and his many other statements about this subject with those made by Do and the class. The class and Sawyer are literally speaking two different languages on this matter. Compare his use of the word “death” to Their use of that term. Or “suicide”.

Sawyer values his “experience” and seems to feel that it is equivalent to the Truth that Ti and Do brought into this world. To me, every argument that he makes to justify what he is doing boils down to the same thing; he wants to be heard and he wants recognition for his time spent in the class. His actions evidence this. He downplays the suppression of much of Ti and Do’s information but then claims that “we NEED to talk about Ti and Do”?! In that case are we really “talking about Ti and Do” (Their Mind, Their information) or are we talking about what Sawyer tells us to be talking about in regards to Ti and Do?

How many class members equated their “experience” with what Ti and Do taught? How many class members said that they were “not looking forward” to leaving this world? How many class members told us that we should take direction from a dropout of the class after they’ve gone? How many class members told us that a dropout would be assigned the task of telling us when the Gate is closed?

The class stated that the classroom was “over”. Look at GLNODY’s Earth Exit Statement. Look at the Final Press Release. Or this from the top of the HG website, “Our 22 years of classroom here on planet Earth is finally coming to conclusion”. In that context it’s rather interesting that Sawyer is discussing “application to be in Ti and Do’s classroom in it’s (sic) current form”. If the class stated that the classroom was “coming to conclusion” with their Exit then how is there a “current form” of said classroom? It’s quite clear that a classroom for graduating from planet earth requires an Older Member or Members to take individuals through that “birthing” into the Next Level. How can there be a “current form” of “Ti and Do’s classroom” when Ti and Do have returned to the Next Level?

This is another of the innumerable examples of where Sawyer is diverging from what the class stated. I have heard Sawyer make statements about how he seems to feel like we’re still in a class. This of course begs the question, who is the Teacher? What we do know is that it suits the Next Level’s purposes to allow this “civilization program” to continue. I am somewhat surprised that this world hasn’t been recycled yet but that gives everyone further opportunity to make their stand for or against the Next Level. Do spoke about how the End of the Age is the most significant time as it offers the most opportunity for growth.

I heard from another former class member once that Do said something to the effect that the worst thing that could happen after He left was for a “church” to form around what was taught in the class. This is what I see happening around Sawyer although I’m almost certain that he will vehemently deny that in 10,000 words or more. Individuals talk about how Sawyer “knows Do better than anyone around” as if this is some kind of competition. Sawyer is responsible for this attitude in that he repeatedly brings up the length of time that he spent in the class as if that makes him the authority on all things related to Ti and Do.

The cult of Sawyer is not the cult of Ti and Do and it never will be. Sawyer’s middle of the night ramble-a-thons can’t hold a candle to what Ti and Do actually taught. Listen to a tape of Ti and Do instructing the class and compare it to one of Sawyer’s livestreams. Actually, don’t do that because there is no comparison. Perhaps the reason why Sawyer reacts so strongly to any criticism of what he says has less to do with “standing for Ti and Do” and more to do with his wanting the world to accept and validate what he has to say. Perhaps Sawyer is way our of his depth when he tries to tell us what it is that “we…NEED…..for our own growth”. Perhaps we don’t need Sawyer or his unsolicited advice at all to grow closer to Ti and Do.

 

 

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But what Carlan doesn’t seem to know is that we (everyone who is making application to be in TI and DO’s classroom in it’s (sic) current form and thereafter in the next civilization’s startup) NEED to talk about TI and DO for our own growth to show Them what They and Their Information means to us and to face us with the difficultly (sic) of doing so which is part of the “overriding requirement”… to be saved for a future classroom.

The above is from Sawyer’s most recent blog entry. The actual quote about the “overriding requirement” goes like this,

“In order to get saved for further planting, the overriding requirement is to recognize that this is true (these are the facts). You must believe that we represent the Kingdom that created this planet and all of its inhabitants. And you must be willing to take a stand in defense of that belief, and sustain that stand until the end – your departure – regardless of the consequences”.

It doesn’t say anything about how we “NEED to talk about Ti and Do for our own growth”. It certainly doesn’t say that we “NEED to talk about” the penis sizes of the vehicles that were brought into the class or that we need to write a book about the prophecies in Revelation. It says “take a stand”. Each individual will have to decide what it means to take that “stand”, Sawyer isn’t qualified to tell us what we need to do to take that stand. We have to ask ourselves, is it appropriate and does it make any sense for someone else to tell us how to take a stand for Ti, Do and the Next Level? And is it appropriate for Sawyer to try to tell us what JWNODY meant by the “overriding requirement” and isn’t it convenient that what he is doing is fulfilling that “requirement”?

Apparently I don’t “know” that “everyone who is making application to be in Ti and Do’s classroom….NEED to talk about Ti and Do for our own growth”. How does Sawyer “know” this of which I am apparently so ignorant? And who gets to determine who is “making application to be in Ti and Do’s classroom”? We already got fooled by one guy pretending to be multiple people online who were supposedly interested in the class. Maybe no one on this planet is in a position to say who is or isn’t “making application to be in Ti and Do’s classroom”. Maybe that’s between each individual and the Next Level. Maybe it’s incredibly stupid to even be discussing “who is making application to be in Ti and Do’s classroom” when Ti and Do left the building long ago. Maybe individuals choosing to stay on planet earth twenty-three years after an Older Member leaves should keep their mouths shut about what “we” should “show” said Older Member.

It’s both insulting and convenient that Sawyer claims that there’s something I don’t “know” about “our own growth”. Is he the arbiter of what is or isn’t “growth” and what we need to “show” Ti and Do? Maybe what Sawyer “doesn’t seem to know” is that he’s not in a position to tell others what they do or don’t “seem to know”.

“Here’s once again what DRRODY said about our “growth”,

“Once we leave, then base your decisions using the criteria of the information we’ve left behind for you. You will be carefully watched after and nurtured in response to your asking and desire. Bear in mind, true growth comes in many forms-often what you might least expect-and always requires effort on your part”.

Maybe Sawyer needs to start using different pronouns. Instead of telling all of us what “we……NEED” to do he should start stating that these are things that he feels that he needs to do. But he has followers online who also talk about “us” and this seems to reinforce Sawyer’s righteousness in his self-appointed “task” for the Next Level and that he’s doing all that he’s doing for the “prospective candidates” of the NL. To me it has always felt like Sawyer is trying to talk the world into his viewpoint. Do stated that this was not something that He was “to talk you into”. (Beyond Human)

I don’t see Do speaking through Sawyer. I see an individual who uses his time spent in the class to set himself up as a kind of Next Level guru. I see an individual who confuses their personal desires with what they try to tell us are the desires of Ti, Do and the Next Level. I see an individual who abuses the information that the class left behind with his own interpretations and agenda.

Don’t take my word for it. Look at what Ti, Do and the class actually said. Maybe there’s a reason why SMMODY stated,

“only through a REP, or information left behind by a REP, can an individual learn what it takes to become a new creature that is acceptable to enter the Kingdom of Heaven”

It’s pretty clear, It says “only”. It doesn’t say that there’s exceptions to this when it comes to those who had “19 years of fully dedicated service”.

Sawyer accuses me of being ignorant about what we “NEED” to do in regards to standing for Ti and Do. I accuse him of being ignorant of his own arrogance if he thinks that he is qualified to tell “us” (us being everyone in the human world apparently) specifically what is the “overriding requirement….to be saved”. The class left behind a lot of information about being “saved”. NONE of it states that one “NEED(s)” to “talk about Ti and Do” loudly (and often stupidly) on the Internet and it certainly doesn’t state that one should attract a following.

Maybe we don’t “NEED” an intermediary to tell us what we “NEED” to do in regards to taking a stand for Ti and Do. Maybe, just maybe, Sawyer is trying to foist what he thinks that he needs to do onto everyone else in order to justify all that he does as being sanctioned by the Next Level, a sort of self-perpetuating loop that he’s designed for himself. Maybe, just maybe, Sawyer likes to be in the human world and maybe, just maybe that personal preference is what has been behind his belief that everyone else needs to stay here too.

I’ve been pretty up front about the fact that I haven’t fully trusted any former class members since RKK left. We all left the class for “personal” reasons. I believe that we all choose to stay for personal reasons. I also believe that many former class members have confused their personal reasons for their actions with the will of Ti, Do and the Next Level. We all like to rationalize our choices and sometimes, rather than admitting that they are selfish choices, we come up with grandiose reasons for said choices so we can be the heroes of our own false narratives. Like Rio never being able to admit that he left the class for “personal reasons” (the class’ words, not mine) and claiming that the same “feeling” that had him join the class was what lead him to leave.

Sort of like an individual who has no desire to follow Do out of this world claiming that the “Luciferians” want to trick one into taking that step so you better not do it. There is no evidence from the class to support Sawyer’s assertion that the Luciferians will try to trick those who are contemplating following in Do’s footsteps into doing so. However, there is plenty of evidence that Sawyer will not even contemplate taking that step and there is plenty of evidence that the Exit is one of the main issues that the world has with the class. Rio, the Kings and Sawyer have all tried to make commentary on the Exit as if they are the authorities on it and have been tasked with interpreting it for those of us who are too stupid to think for ourselves. Maybe they’re fearful of how the world will view them if they don’t condemn any and all contemplation of taking that step. One of Sawyer’s followers said something about how badly “we” would “look in the media” if someone who had expressed interest in Ti and Do’s information took that step.

So, even though the class did a “mass suicide” and it was (and still is) widely condemned by the media “we” apparently should be concerned about how “we” (the “applicants” perhaps?) will get negative feedback from the media if someone else does it?!! In that context then is trying to foster a good image in the media something that we “NEED” to do? Is listening to Sawyer ramble on for hours the way that “we” get in the media’s good graces?! Is the concern here for the class or for one’s own self under the guise of a “we”? “Oh no, the media is going to think poorly of us because someone followed in Do and the class’ footsteps”. The sheer self-absorption of this kind of thinking is pretty disturbing to me.

“That was for them”-Sawyer

“That was targeted to former class members”-Rio on the Final Press Release

“”The Gate is closed”-Mark King

“The Gate is closed, for now”-Sawyer

Do we accept everything that the class did or do we pick and choice to suit our own agendas? Do we let the information left behind by the class stand on its own or do we, like Paul, offer our personal interpretations of what the Older Member(s) said as if it were the Gospel? Do we listen to the Older Members who were sent here by the Next Level or do we listen to one of Their former students because he tells us that we should do so?

What Sawyer “doesn’t seem to know” is that he doesn’t “know” nearly as much as he has conned himself into believing that he does. And he certainly doesn’t “know” what it is that others should be doing. Maybe instead of spending hours on the Internet telling everyone else what they “NEED” Sawyer should spend a little time looking inward.

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